Hey everyone!
** Fair Warning: This is gonna take a ridiculously long time to reach any meaningful conclusion, but I'll do my best to speed things up **
With that out of the way let's get started.
The purpose of this post is to basically gather as much info as possible and compile a massive database (or hopefully a step by step diagnosis guid) for any Z3 owner with ASC/ABS issues.
Admittedly I am not a professional car mechanic, so if you're a professional, your input is most welcome and desperately needed at this point. If you've managed to solve your ASC/ABS issue please post your story/link to your thread/video and I'll add your story to the list. With the hope that future Z3 owners will have less googling to do when they inevitably encounter this horrendous nuisance.
My Particular Case:
The Story:
**TLDR at the End**
So my problem started 2 years ago. While casually driving down the road, I was met with the ungodly sight of the two yellow lights of doom on my cluster. I immediately proceeded to freak the hell out and try to pull over, before I even found a safe spot to stop, the lights turned off. It was as if nothing had happened. All systems functioned as they should and I just kind of shrugged it off as a random glitch.
6 Months later it turned back on and this time it lasted a good 5-10 mins, and went away after restarting the car. Everything went right back to normal.
5/6 months later it started again, but 10 mins became 30mins, became an hour, became a full day and finally, it remained permanently on.
I took the car to a shop with a code reader. the technician reset the onboard computer, the warning lights turned off and he said there's nothing wrong. He even ran an ABS pump test everything was absolutely fine. Sure enough the lights were right back on the next morning.
About 2 weeks ago I purchased an OBD-II reader with a pac-man port so I can finally find out whats wrong for myself. This bold and unprecedented move had my ASC module scared, understandably it didn't wanna go to the junkyard. So it started working again, as if it hadn't just spent the past several months being a useless hunk of metal.
So I took advantage of this and found a patch of slippery dirt to try and physically test the system, thinking I might get it to act up or do something weird. But nope. Nothing. Works like brand new.
Yesterday, it started raining quite heavily (not sure if related). This caused the unfortunate yellow duo to appear on my cluster again. so this time I wanna find out what's wrong once and for all.
TLDR: Traction Control + ABS Warning have been on/off intermittently for 2 years and Im tired of their s***.
The Car:
I have a Japanese market Right hand Drive 1999 BMW Z3.
its got the 1.9 litre i4 mated to a 4 speed slush box
Pretty much bone stock, except the rims and tires. Rims and tired were swapped out long before this issue arose. So it's unlikely to be causing it.
Progress/intro thread with more details:
https://zroadster.org/threads/japanese-market-z3-owner-new-to-the-forum.27995/#post-463282
The tests:
ABS Pump test (using onboard diagnosis) -pump fully functional
Visual Inspection of ABS sensors -they look fine
Pulled the fuse/swapped out for known good fuse -no avail
When the error is off:
-I tried to pull a massive powerslide -ASC intervened normally
-tried to do a burn out -ASC stopped wheel spin
-slammed the brakes as hard as possible -ABS stopped wheels locking up, not even tire squeal
When the error is displayed:
-ASC/ABS are completely shut off.
The tools:
Access to a crappy USB OBD-II reader from ebay
Access to Microsoft, Macintoch and Linux-based computers for running diagnostic software
Access to open testing area where I can slide around and do silly test manoeuvres safely
Actual Tools e.g. wenches, screw drivers, etc
Most likely Culprit:
Wiring Issue
The Task at hand:
Most importantly I'd like to know what software/hardware i need to properly access the ASC/ABS module.
The software that came with my OBD-II dongle can only show me engine data. If I'm not mistaken this car has a separate computer for the ASC/ABS system, is that correct?
What software have you guys used successfully?
Has anyone been able to access the ASC/ABS module with a run of the mill OBD-II reader?
Always Keep the top Down!
Sina
** Fair Warning: This is gonna take a ridiculously long time to reach any meaningful conclusion, but I'll do my best to speed things up **
With that out of the way let's get started.
The purpose of this post is to basically gather as much info as possible and compile a massive database (or hopefully a step by step diagnosis guid) for any Z3 owner with ASC/ABS issues.
Admittedly I am not a professional car mechanic, so if you're a professional, your input is most welcome and desperately needed at this point. If you've managed to solve your ASC/ABS issue please post your story/link to your thread/video and I'll add your story to the list. With the hope that future Z3 owners will have less googling to do when they inevitably encounter this horrendous nuisance.
My Particular Case:
The Story:
**TLDR at the End**
So my problem started 2 years ago. While casually driving down the road, I was met with the ungodly sight of the two yellow lights of doom on my cluster. I immediately proceeded to freak the hell out and try to pull over, before I even found a safe spot to stop, the lights turned off. It was as if nothing had happened. All systems functioned as they should and I just kind of shrugged it off as a random glitch.
6 Months later it turned back on and this time it lasted a good 5-10 mins, and went away after restarting the car. Everything went right back to normal.
5/6 months later it started again, but 10 mins became 30mins, became an hour, became a full day and finally, it remained permanently on.
I took the car to a shop with a code reader. the technician reset the onboard computer, the warning lights turned off and he said there's nothing wrong. He even ran an ABS pump test everything was absolutely fine. Sure enough the lights were right back on the next morning.
About 2 weeks ago I purchased an OBD-II reader with a pac-man port so I can finally find out whats wrong for myself. This bold and unprecedented move had my ASC module scared, understandably it didn't wanna go to the junkyard. So it started working again, as if it hadn't just spent the past several months being a useless hunk of metal.
So I took advantage of this and found a patch of slippery dirt to try and physically test the system, thinking I might get it to act up or do something weird. But nope. Nothing. Works like brand new.
Yesterday, it started raining quite heavily (not sure if related). This caused the unfortunate yellow duo to appear on my cluster again. so this time I wanna find out what's wrong once and for all.
TLDR: Traction Control + ABS Warning have been on/off intermittently for 2 years and Im tired of their s***.
The Car:
I have a Japanese market Right hand Drive 1999 BMW Z3.
its got the 1.9 litre i4 mated to a 4 speed slush box
Pretty much bone stock, except the rims and tires. Rims and tired were swapped out long before this issue arose. So it's unlikely to be causing it.
Progress/intro thread with more details:
https://zroadster.org/threads/japanese-market-z3-owner-new-to-the-forum.27995/#post-463282
The tests:
ABS Pump test (using onboard diagnosis) -pump fully functional
Visual Inspection of ABS sensors -they look fine
Pulled the fuse/swapped out for known good fuse -no avail
When the error is off:
-I tried to pull a massive powerslide -ASC intervened normally
-tried to do a burn out -ASC stopped wheel spin
-slammed the brakes as hard as possible -ABS stopped wheels locking up, not even tire squeal
When the error is displayed:
-ASC/ABS are completely shut off.
The tools:
Access to a crappy USB OBD-II reader from ebay
Access to Microsoft, Macintoch and Linux-based computers for running diagnostic software
Access to open testing area where I can slide around and do silly test manoeuvres safely
Actual Tools e.g. wenches, screw drivers, etc
Most likely Culprit:
Wiring Issue
The Task at hand:
Most importantly I'd like to know what software/hardware i need to properly access the ASC/ABS module.
The software that came with my OBD-II dongle can only show me engine data. If I'm not mistaken this car has a separate computer for the ASC/ABS system, is that correct?
What software have you guys used successfully?
Has anyone been able to access the ASC/ABS module with a run of the mill OBD-II reader?
Always Keep the top Down!
Sina